Transcript: Donald Trump’s Presidency Is in Free Fall

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The following is a lightly edited transcript of the April 1 episode of the Daily Blast podcast. Listen to it here.Greg Sargent: This is The Daily Blast from The New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network. I’m your host, Greg Sargent.Donald Trump’s unpopularity is hitting some important milestones. His approval rating has dropped below 40 percent in at least three different sets of polling averages. What’s more, another analysis shows Trump is more unpopular with independents than any president at this point in his second term, including Richard Nixon. And millions of people across the country just marched to protest his presidency in what may be the largest single-day protest in U.S. history.So what’s the real nature of the connection between those protests and Trump’s plummeting approval numbers? The answer to that will give us a sense of what it all means for the fall elections. So we’re talking today to Leah Greenberg, a co-founder of Indivisible, the group that organized those protests, about what to make of what’s going on out there in the country. Leah, nice to have you on.Leah Greenberg: Great to be here.Sargent: So Leah, what’s the final estimate on the turnout at the protests over the weekend? And by the way, congrats.Greenberg: Thank you. Well, so our final estimate is more than 8 million folks showed up across 3,300 events around the country and around the world. We had people in all seven continents. And one of the things that was really powerful and exciting about this march—or this moment—was the sheer number of those new events that were taking place in red, rural, and suburban areas. We’ve long had really incredible turnout in a lot of those big blue city centers, but what we are seeing across the country is a real incredible spread at a very hyper-localized level of this discontent and this visibility of opposition to the Trump administration.Sargent: Well, I really want to come back to that because his erosion in red America and with the base is an important thing. So the New York Times polling averages have Trump at 39 percent approval with 56 percent disapproving. Nate Silver’s polling averages have him at 39.6 percent. And the 50 Plus One website has Trump even lower at 37 percent approval to 58 percent disapproval. Leah, all three of those are below 40 percent. And it’s really worth stressing that these are averages which are deliberately constructed to not move quickly. What do you make of that milestone?Greenberg: I mean, I think it says what it says, which is that people are tired of this mad king act, right? The reality is it’s not going to be one single thing. It is this constant sense of unaccountable, imperious governance—of his focus being on things like invading and occupying a major American city, or building himself a ballroom palace, instead of on regular people’s experiences, the cost of living, the crises that regular people are going through all over the country. It is the sense that American society is struggling under the weight of AI, a weak jobs market, continued inflation, while Donald Trump focuses on his own glory, his own enrichment, his own power. It’s not a matter of one thing, but it is the aggregate of all of that together.And I should also add, particularly in the last month, what we’re seeing is that the war is driving a new set of folks out and activating people in a different way. Because fundamentally, people are still getting used to the fact that this is a real and full and escalated war. But they’re reacting very clearly to that. Sargent: The mobilization in the face of the war is a really extraordinary thing. CNN polling analyst Harry Enten had this amazing on-air monologue. His calculations have Trump’s net overall approval 18 points underwater and among independents, 45 percent underwater. Listen to this.Harry Enten (voiceover): This has been a steady fall into the abyss. There is no bottom. Death Valley. If there’s one big number from this, is that Donald Trump now has the worst net approval rating among independents of any president ever at this point in term two. He is worse than Richard Nixon, who would be going adios amigos in a few months back in 1974 in term two. Look at this, minus 45 points, worse than George W. Bush at this point in term two. The Iraq war was weighing him down at minus 37 and worse than Richard Nixon when of course there were all those impeachment hearings back in 1974 at minus 36 points. He’s nearly 10 points worse among independents on his net approval rating at this point in term two, Donald Trump is, than Richard Nixon. My goodness gracious.Sargent: So again, Trump’s approval is a net 19 points underwater and among independents 45 percent underwater. Leah, that last number is really something. You had mentioned that you’re seeing real turnout at these things in unlikely places. And independents are a key part of the Trump coalition.

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The following is a lightly edited transcript of the April 1 episode of the Daily Blast podcast. Listen to it here.Greg Sargent: This is The Daily Blast from The New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network. I’m your host, Greg Sargent.Donald Trump’s unpopularity is hitting some important milestones. His approval rating has dropped below 40 percent in at least three different sets of polling averages. What’s more, another analysis shows Trump is more unpopular with independents than any president at this point in his second term, including Richard Nixon. And millions of people across the country just marched to protest his presidency in what may be the largest single-day protest in U.S. history.So what’s the real nature of the connection between those protests and Trump’s plummeting approval numbers? The answer to that will give us a sense of what it all means for the fall elections. So we’re talking today to Leah Greenberg, a co-founder of Indivisible, the group that organized those protests, about what to make of what’s going on out there in the country. Leah, nice to have you on.Leah Greenberg: Great to be here.Sargent: So Leah, what’s the final estimate on the turnout at the protests over the weekend? And by the way, congrats.Greenberg: Thank you. Well, so our final estimate is more than 8 million folks showed up across 3,300 events around the country and around the world. We had people in all seven continents. And one of the things that was really powerful and exciting about this march—or this moment—was the sheer number of those new events that were taking place in red, rural, and suburban areas. We’ve long had really incredible turnout in a lot of those big blue city centers, but what we are seeing across the country is a real incredible spread at a very hyper-localized level of this discontent and this visibility of opposition to the Trump administration.Sargent: Well, I really want to come back to that because his erosion in red America and with the base is an important thing. So the New York Times polling averages have Trump at 39 percent approval with 56 percent disapproving. Nate Silver’s polling averages have him at 39.6 percent. And the 50 Plus One website has Trump even lower at 37 percent approval to 58 percent disapproval. Leah, all three of those are below 40 percent. And it’s really worth stressing that these are averages which are deliberately constructed to not move quickly. What do you make of that milestone?Greenberg: I mean, I think it says what it says, which is that people are tired of this mad king act, right? The reality is it’s not going to be one single thing. It is this constant sense of unaccountable, imperious governance—of his focus being on things like invading and occupying a major American city, or building himself a ballroom palace, instead of on regular people’s experiences, the cost of living, the crises that regular people are going through all over the country. It is the sense that American society is struggling under the weight of AI, a weak jobs market, continued inflation, while Donald Trump focuses on his own glory, his own enrichment, his own power. It’s not a matter of one thing, but it is the aggregate of all of that together.And I should also add, particularly in the last month, what we’re seeing is that the war is driving a new set of folks out and activating people in a different way. Because fundamentally, people are still getting used to the fact that this is a real and full and escalated war. But they’re reacting very clearly to that. Sargent: The mobilization in the face of the war is a really extraordinary thing. CNN polling analyst Harry Enten had this amazing on-air monologue. His calculations have Trump’s net overall approval 18 points underwater and among independents, 45 percent underwater. Listen to this.Harry Enten (voiceover): This has been a steady fall into the abyss. There is no bottom. Death Valley. If there’s one big number from this, is that Donald Trump now has the worst net approval rating among independents of any president ever at this point in term two. He is worse than Richard Nixon, who would be going adios amigos in a few months back in 1974 in term two. Look at this, minus 45 points, worse than George W. Bush at this point in term two. The Iraq war was weighing him down at minus 37 and worse than Richard Nixon when of course there were all those impeachment hearings back in 1974 at minus 36 points. He’s nearly 10 points worse among independents on his net approval rating at this point in term two, Donald Trump is, than Richard Nixon. My goodness gracious.Sargent: So again, Trump’s approval is a net 19 points underwater and among independents 45 percent underwater. Leah, that last number is really something. You had mentioned that you’re seeing real turnout at these things in unlikely places. And independents are a key part of the Trump coalition.